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cnn this is mission control houston

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please call station for voice check

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cnn this is station we've got you loud

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hey guys uh just wanted to uh ask you

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right off the bat uh

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how are things going up there now that

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you've got the

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the six of you all together makes things

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well it makes it easier to get a lot

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more done that's that's for one thing

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and it's it's awful nice to have the

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company

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we we have been training together

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actually all six of us for quite a while

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for the last several years and it's good

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to have a full team again we've been

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uh for about three months with uh just

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half strength on board space station so

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so things are things are humming along

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pretty well

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now either you guys can answer these

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questions

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it's so much has been made of the fact

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with six of you up there now

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all the time hopefully

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that it'll be a lot easier to to get

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science done a lot easier to

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you know hopefully come up with some

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groundbreaking science uh that really is

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the thrust of the space station right

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now and that's

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isn't that clear that uh

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down the road you're going to be hoping

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that these are the kinds of things that

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the purposes of space station are many

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and what you're talking about is the

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utilization of space station and i like

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to break it down into two categories one

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is scientific research which you are

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well aware of and most people are

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there's a second category that i like to

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call engineering research and this is

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working out details of engineering that

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maybe we don't quite know uh everything

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there is about uh building a piece of

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equipment and and one example of that is

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our regenerative life support system

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which i fondly call the coffee machine

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where we take our urine that comes in

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from our toilet and run run it through a

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machine that goes

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makes grinding noises and then out comes

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a bag of coffee on the other side and so

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it turned yesterday's coffee into

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today's coffee and this is an amazing

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piece of equipment and we're in the

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process of figuring out how to make this

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robust and function in a way that when

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we go to mars or when we go elsewhere

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beyond low earth orbit we can count on

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having a regenerative life support

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system that works and and that's an

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example of engineering research and we

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spend a lot of our time doing

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engineering research on the systems and

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the details of space station as well as

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the scientific research

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you know you just mentioned going to

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mars and i was out in houston right

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before the holidays and spoke with one

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of your colleagues and a couple of

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medical doctors out there i know one of

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the big issues now that they are saying

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maybe the single biggest issue they have

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to resolve before going to mars is this

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eye issue that's come up with uh

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deteriorate a little bit of

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deterioration and then the change in uh

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you know the actual shape of the eye you

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guys know it as we're better than i do

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um how first off how are your eyes and

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uh and second of all you are up there

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doing some some studies uh right now on

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yeah you bet i i think it's potentially

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a threat you know the the thing that

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we're doing right now is we're actually

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quantitatively measuring a lot of the

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parameters we're able to with ultrasound

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image the back of the eye image the

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optic nerve and we effect did that for

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all of our cells over the last week or

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two we can also with through tonometry

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uh measure the actual pressure in the

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eye and that's a key thing and then we

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can also with a pan-optic sensor get

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very very detailed high-resolution

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imagery at the retina of the eye and the

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kinds of problems that have happened in

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a fairly small subsection of people that

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have flown here before

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seem to be isolated some people have it

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many people don't have any at all i

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think we came through and and our eyes

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look look very good but i think the data

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that we get right now will be really

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important to help the scientists on the

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ground try to figure out exactly what's

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i i have to ask you but you know the

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reason one of the primary reasons we

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were doing this was in advance of the

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launch of spacex

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which is going to be an incredible feat

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for a commercial company now of course

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it's delayed and i my understanding is

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it it could be a lengthy delay uh that's

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still going to be a bit disappointing to

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you guys i know you did a lot of

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practicing on on grappling

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spacex uh the dragon and when it gets

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there uh it has to be a bit

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disappointing though but obviously you

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maybe just a little bit disappointing

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we've got a great consolation prize in

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the fact that we get to live and work

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here onboard space station so there's an

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awful lot of good and uh and if there's

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a little disappointment like that it's

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pretty small space flight is tough it's

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really really hard and

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this and very quickly field a system

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that's going to be able to be ready to

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go on the first day planned and be

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absolutely reliable is a little bit

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unrealistic and this is the nature of

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space flight you basically are going to

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have to design and test and probably

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redesign and that's how space station

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was built that's how all the spacecraft

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that have been here and have been in

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other places have been built and it's

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always going to be tough but i think

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it's going to be absolutely worthwhile

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despite the difficulties

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i was going to say that uh

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exactly what you just said

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is that it is just proves how difficult

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space flight is particularly not just

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getting up and flying around but when

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you've got to go someplace and and

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rendezvous and then grapple that that's

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one of one of the unique things about

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spacex is is it it flies up like htv

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and uh just gets close to space station

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and then we kind of lasso it with the

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robotic arm and and bring it in the last

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10 meters and birth it to one of our

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docket parts and and this is this is a

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pretty sporting thing uh particularly

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from uh space station operations from

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our viewpoint and it's something that we

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spend a lot of time training for just

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like spacewalks we spend a lot of time

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training for maybe maybe we do a

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spacewalk maybe we don't but we're

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prepared uh for the situation

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space junk that's up there uh it seems

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as if you're and maybe it's just me but

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that you're more frequently having to

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to address the growing amount of space

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to be really cognizant of the future

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to be very careful about the spacecraft

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responsible about it the amount of the

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conjunctions that we're seeing right now

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actually see it but still there's an

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that falls below the threshold of what

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parlance so i think it's really really

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either are de-orbited and are designed

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deorbited upwards for example and uh and

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unlikely but potentially catastrophic

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event that if we were to have a debris

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strike we have to be able to be in a

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where it's going to go in the future who

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gentlemen thank you so very much for

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your time this is john's role with cnn

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a station this is houston acr that

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concludes the cnn portion of the event

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please stand by for a voice check from

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associated press is the international

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space station welcome aboard marsha

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we've got you loud and clear well good

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morning commander burbank dr pettit

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greetings from the kennedy space center

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on a beautiful morning

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um i'd like to start off a little bit

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with spacex um

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do you have any inkling insight into

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when the launch might be and whether

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either of you will still be on board

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i have not heard dates i know that there

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have been some issues that have come up

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the opportunity to actually get a chance

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to grapple in birth spacex if that's not

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to be during our mission then that's

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okay we've got plenty of other things to

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uh to occupy us and and and very

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rewarding things as well but

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when they need to and whoever is here

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whether it's us or the next crew that

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crew is going to be ready as well

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well could you put the flight in

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perspective for me how you see its place

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the big picture of

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it's always been governments it's always

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been nations that have launched payloads

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into space

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and and so this will be

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one step in the long road to human

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expansion off of the planet in the low

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earth orbit and beyond

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and and how tricky will it be to snare

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the capsule is that something that's um

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complicated or rather straightforward

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just as if

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you were going to

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i think at first order it's it's a

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fairly straightforward operation it's

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it's something that we uh that we can

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train pretty well we can simulate very

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well and in fact we now have the

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capability on board space station uh

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using a couple different computers that

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we can actually replicate the simulators

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that we use on the ground and actually

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right up until the day of

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a grapple the track and capture we'd

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call it we can actually practice that

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and go through at least the piloting

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skills of how that that go how that

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works as far as the crew coordination

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between the people that are going to be

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prime flying the arm and the person

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that's going to help them that's

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something that we also get an awful lot

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of time practicing leading up to it

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that's not to say that any vehicle that

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comes up here there's a lot of

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challenges both on the design side on

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the ground control side as well as on

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board so it is a it is a challenging

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kind of an operation from an overall

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global choreography

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standpoint but it's something that's

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absolutely doable and

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and it'll be great to see when we

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finally do it and the other beautiful

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thing about spacex is the ability to

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return cargo from space station so with

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the loss of space shuttle we haven't

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been able to do that and we've got lots

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of samples that we

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that are the result of the scientific

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research that we really need to get back

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to planet earth and having the ability

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to uh to return a vehicle like spacex is

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going to be key down the road

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uh tell me commander burbank um are you

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feeling the absence of the space

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shuttles in terms of cargo up mass

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backing down i'm just wondering if um

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if if you notice any kind of uh

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extra collection on board of stuff that

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should be going down or

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or garbage or or even just um

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becoming a going of a regular regular

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well

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certainly and it would be disingenuous

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to say otherwise

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the shuttle did all the heavy lifting

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both literally and figuratively

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for space station and it was the unique

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capability we needed to bring up big

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heavy modules to assemble them using the

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shuttle's robotic arm in conjunction

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with the station robotic arm to support

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evas that are based off the shuttle and

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even off the station

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it's not just the up mass down mass that

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we lost with the shuttle but speaking to

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that specific question it has been a

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little bit more challenging and it's

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been made more so by the loss of

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progress 44p this past summer but with

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that said we're just now ready to undock

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progress 45p here in a couple of days

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and we managed to

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uh amazingly i don't know how we did it

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but uh with the help of the russian

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specialists and

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and our russian crews and and all of us

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hunting down every little bit of trash

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that we could find on station stowe away

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almost everything that we had that

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needed to go back that we needed to at

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least get rid of to make room for the

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operation to do on board so i think

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we're getting by okay but we need to

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have as much up mass and down mass

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capability as we can to support space

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station operations at the level we need

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it

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thank you i'd like to ask you both about

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the golden anniversary next month of

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john glenn's first flight um i heard you

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discussing the other day dr pettit how

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mr glenn inspired you to become an

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astronaut and i'd like you to elaborate

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on that a little more please and you too

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commander burbank um how has john

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glenn's first flight shaped both of your

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lives i i know you were just a babe

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there commander burbank when that flight

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happened but but still it must have

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shaped you in some way as a professional

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well one thing that john glenn's flight

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did was just show that

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this was reality that that uh space

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flight moved from science fiction to

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science fact and

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there's one thing to dream as a little

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kid and as an adult it's another thing

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to have real possibilities that you can

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actually plan

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and uh

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and achieve and the one of the seminal

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things that john glenn's flight did was

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show that space flight with humans is

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possible and that we have a program that

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is

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ongoing so that a kid

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growing up and being in school could say

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i want to study hard and do math and

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science and take all the hard courses so

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that when i

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pop out of school on the other end i can

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and and i guess

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my answer to that would be all those

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early missions and and the thing that

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the one mission that stands out most of

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my mind was just before my eighth

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birthday was the apollo 11 moon landing

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and

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that was a huge impact to me personally

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and all my life i've been i guess what

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i'd call a space geek or

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an amateur astronomer somebody always

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interested in in all things space but it

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wasn't until i was already flying uh

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helicopters in the coast guard for quite

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a few years

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and that it ever occurred to me to

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actually that this was something i could

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do even as an eight-year-old or a 10 or

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12 year old i think i was

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maybe too much of a realist to think

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that

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becoming an astronaut was a possibility

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for me which is probably a good lesson

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for a lot of kids right now and

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i guess i would say that you have no

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idea what you're really capable of

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uh dr pettit i i

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was hoping you could also talk a little

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bit more about those red ball jet shoes

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of yours and that little recording of

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john glenn describing his flight um how

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old were you then and and do you

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remember do you have any recollection of

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the day that john glenn became the first

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you know

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i probably remember

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the the little record in the red ball

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jets more than john glenn's actual

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launch

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and and i can't really remember how old

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i was i could i could look at the dates

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and do the math

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um

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but uh

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the i what

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really

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were the pictures that would show up in

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life magazine and this gets back to the

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importance of sharing the experience

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with everyone and talking to people like

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you marcia that uh take

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uh interviews from people like us and

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then go out and share with the rest of

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the world because if it isn't for

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for those kinds of outlets there'd be a

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whole host of kids that wouldn't even

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know what's going on in the space

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program

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and one one more question along this

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line if i might might if i might um i'm

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assuming you've both met john glenn have

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you both met him

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absolutely

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yeah okay thank you um dr pettit you you

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had another interesting comment the

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other day when you were you said that

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you would be willing to immigrate to

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space and i've been covering this

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for a long time and never heard anyone

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go so far off that limb before and what

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is it what is it about space

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that would prompt you to want to stay

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there forever assuming you had your

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family with you and to never come back

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well you know i came to this conclusion

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during expedition 6 back in 2002 2003

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and and i talked about it then i i think

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i even wrote an essay about it which uh

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uh then we're called journals but now we

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call them blogs

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and

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in my heart when i'm in space

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and it's got to be the same kind of

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feeling that people had in the 15th and

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16th and 17th centuries when they

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decided to immigrate to the new world

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and they knew they were gonna load up

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their families and get on a ship and go

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off and never see the continental europe

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again and they were okay with that

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um

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i'm not sure about the families that

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were drugged along but they may not have

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had a choice back then

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and and that's how i feel

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inside is if we had the technology so

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that you knew you could immigrate into

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space and continue to live a normal

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life

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i would pack up everything i have on

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earth including my family and

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and move away and never come back

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well do you think that's going to happen

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in your lifetime if not you

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another astronaut in their family i mean

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is this some how far into the future do

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you see that and when you were that boy

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wanting those red ball jet shoes did you

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think that 50 years 40 years hence which

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would be today that there would be

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people living in space not just on a

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station but actually really truly being

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i think when i was a little kid those

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kind of philosophical arguments were way

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above me and i was probably more

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concerned about whether the little red

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sticker on the side of my red ball jets

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would fall off like it they did on the

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previous pair

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uh

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but

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be in

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in another 50 years

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uh you know i my crystal ball doesn't

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see that far i do think that these kinds

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of of uh concepts of the future are

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built by people starting off saying we

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want to make that happen and so if we

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want to be able to

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basically colonize places outside of

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earth it's something that we as human

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beings we as uh americans need

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to say we want to make that happen and

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then we just roll up our sleeves and we

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do it and and it'll take

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20 25 30 years of hard work to do it but

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we've got to have a plan we've got to be

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motivated and we just have to start in

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and and work on it and and that's that's

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how we'll make this future

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well i'd like to say thank you to both

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and

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thanks very much marcia you take care

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the station this is houston acr that

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and thank you cnn and associated press